Fox Hunting with a TDOA Antenna

In preparation for the pedestrian fox-hunt that happened a couple of weeks ago, I decided to take a look around for some antenna designs that I could build at home. I came across a blog post which showed off a Time Difference of Arrival (TDOA) antenna that someone had designed and built.

TDOA Antenna

A simple and effective fox-hunting antenna

How it works

The antenna relies on a timer, in my case a 555 timer, to generate an audible signal. I have mine calibrated to a frequency of 1kHz. This signal is level-shifted so that it goes between -4.5V and 4.5V. The use of a set of diodes causes the circuit to quickly switch between the two dipole antennas mounted to the unit (tuned to 145mHz). When the signal received by the two dipoles is out of phase, the receiver emits a tone. When the RF source is equidistant from both antennas (when you are pointing at the “fox”) the signals are in phase, causing the tone to disappear.

This design is fully functional regardless of how close you are to the source, providing an advantage over other antenna designs. The audible tone also provides a clear indicator of direction. However, the main issue is the fact that you get two readings, at 180° to each other.

Parts List

The list of components required is quite simple, so I had most of them laying around.

  • 555 Timer
  • 4.7K  Resistor
  • 100K Resistor
  • 2x 470Ω Resistor
  • 2x 0.01uF, 50V Capacitor
  • 10uF, 25V Capacitor
  • 0.001uF, 50V Capacitor
  • 4x 1N4007 RF Pin Diode
  • 2x 10uH Inductor Coil
  • RF Choke, 8 turns (salvaged from a motherboard)
  • SPST Switch
  • 9V Battery
  • 9V Battery Clip
  • Antenna wire (single core) or 4x Telescopic Antennas
  • 1.5M of RG-58 Coax

Build

When building the antenna, I used two blog posts for reference. You can find them here(pdf) and here. For some reason I ended up combining both of the designs, using the Bryonics.com design for the dipole circuits, and the 146970.com design for the rest of the circuit. This probably isn’t advisable, but it worked for me. Here is the circuit I used:

You can test the 555 timer circuit by hooking the output pin up to a speaker. You should hear a tone when power is supplied to the circuit. I started by breadboarding the timer circuit, and then moved it to veroboard for the final build. Once the circuit was complete, I zip tied the PTT button down on my PMR446 Walkie-Talkie, plugged the antenna into my Wouxun KG-UVD1P reciever, and tuned into the 446mHz signal. The antenna worked perfectly first time, providing a clear tone that faded out when I pointed the antenna at the radio.

For the physical construction of the antenna, I used some thick, single core, cable to make the dipole antennas, and mounted the whole thing on a 60cm long piece of wood. Lots of glue gun was used as I couldn’t be bothered to find some screws. I also drilled holes in the ends of the wood to poke the coax through. The dipole elements were attached using screws, and can be bent between a folded and deployed position.

CircuitEvaluation

I took the antenna out for the pedestrian fox-hunt that happened a few weeks ago. The antenna picked up the first signal very well, and the audio tone allowed me to find the direction of the transmission to quite a high accuracy. Unfortunately for me, I headed off into the wrong direction, as the antenna will give you two readings at 180° to each other. I had it running all evening, without the battery flattening. The RF choke fell off quite quickly, as I had not done a very good job with the soldering. I was also worried that the connection between the RX input coax and the board would break, so I would consider using a small connector in the future (such as an SMA socket). Overall the antenna worked very well, albeit sending us in the wrong direction! In terms of improvements, I would also like to mount the circuit board properly, and put it in an enclosure.

If anyone has any questions, or wants me to bring mine with me on a club night, just let me know.

-Peter Barnes

G4RNK VHF Net

Hi all 😆

I have put up VHF Antenna for Friday night Net, Please can you leave a break to call me i will be also on my phone

Tel 07860 600 909

Andy Adams G7OPB  and i think contact will be ok be not sure about the rest of the net

So far GB2AA,GB4WR sound good

Thanks guys

Rob

G4RNK 🙄

Another Garage Sale …. Another Antenna in need of restoration..

Gents whilst surfing eBay as one does I came across this very old and somewhat neglected VHF/UHF antenna. I like a bargain as you all know. So at £20 couldn’t resist.

Steve (G0NXT I think if I remember correctly) had been using it upto the late 90’s so it may not be 20 years old although can’t be sure. He purchased it new from the then J Beam company now I believe Amphanol Antennas. Has been in his garage every since he took it off his 40 ft tower when he went HF only.  A 14 element Para Beam antenna (its big) here it is (cleaned and ready to repair and erect) – incidentally this is the soon to be QTH shack cleared and ready for the builders;

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Not much missing I think on inspection and cleaning yesterday (Sat) apart from; coaxial housing top lid (foot) on slot radiator, 90 degree elbow on one corner of the radiator section, one side of bracket housing connector for director to the main shaft (diamond shaped bracket), a few cap ends for the elements – nothing that can’t be fixed, made or replaced easily. Otherwise not in bad shape for an old antenna!

I have no idea how well if at all it would perform but Steve certainly had good DX contacts on SSB (sporadic E) into Holland, Germany and France back in the day mind you on a tower and with a rotator obviously.

I intend to bring this along with my J Pole (which is at the front of the list for adjustments and repairs) to project nights and perhaps John, Andrew and Kyle or others might want to join me in their journey to operation. I thought they both would make a great field event project and so looking forward to bringing these to the next field day for trials.

So…next on the restoration list I suppose will have to be a HF antenna system but for now thats it until I get these both working.

Happy days

Mark

Callsign Wrong for the club (GX4ABC)

Warning

As some of you know I have be speaking to Ofcom about the club’s call signs that many of you sometimes use   GX4ABC. &  G4ABC.

The callsign G4ABC is OK to use until 2017 when it will need to be renewed.

Ofcom

After a long chat with them GX4ABC is not Licenced to be Used. as this was a callsign to be used for people with No Callsign to send greeting messages with a full Amateur by their side, Not a general club call.

 

So please only use the callsign G4ABC

 

SO DO NOT US THE  CALLSIGN GX4ABC  AS THIS WILL BE OUT SIDE OF YOUR LICENCING TERMS  AND YOU MAY PUT YOUR OWN LICENCE AT RISK.

You have been warned.

 

HF Mobile (almost)

Almost there with HF mobile installation. Bit by bit coming together nicely. Final parts of the jigsaw arrive tomorrow with luck and then the fun playing with VSWR, RF, Common Mode RF etc. starts. Hopefully I’ve followed good advice from Andrew and others KOBG.com to name a few. Hoping to use 10, 20, 40 and 80M to start with and then onwards and in between later. Even have a mobile tuner (birthday present) ready to order happy days!!. Home QTH shack is cleared and roofers are due to come next week to quote for replacing the roof and then work can start on garage conversion.

Update on my £2 home brew antenna

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Finally found time to play antenna’s on Monday gone and I can report a successful field test albeit crude and basic on the home brew bought at the recent Kempton Rally.

The test was very arbitrary and with basic equipment (MFJ analyser is on order) so used my old basic SWR meter and handheld (4W) with a lash up push up pole in the garden and undoubtedly load of loss everywhere but….. with reasonable results. I needed to try it somehow and wanted to test as if portable in a field!

It does appear that the antenna works 2M and 70cms and in fact was giving slightly better SWR results on 70.  Crude readings ranged bottom 70cms band 1:3:1 up to top 1:2:1 and on 2M bottom 1:3:1 and top 1:5:1. Receive was clear and easily picking up stations on 2M who were mobile calling in from Devises and beyond.

However…a few problems with the following means a little more work is needed to address; line loss (probably need to replace the old coax used with low loss), weak or bad feeder connection at the bottom of the J pole and the actual antenna joints need sealing but apart from that a good buy for a portable antenna. Also looks as if it was made from good quality aluminium so nice and light.

So I will be bringing the J pole along with a few long wires to the field event so need to get cracking on the repair work before that. Happy days!

73’s

Mark M6KMJ

 

Sale or Wanted Corner

At risk of starting a trend on the site……. I’m in the market for an HF mobile rig preferable with a detachable head and ideally if possible either yaesu, ICOM or similar (e.g. yaesu Ft100D or ICOM 706 etc).  happy to look at other models if available. Looked on Lynch line, WS, Navada, Ebay and the usual but a few not many around (couple I’m bidding on). Wasn’t going to do HF mobile but…..decided I might give it a try whilst the shack is WIP.  Open to offers and happy to negotiate a sensible price to pay.

 

Feel free to reply to the post.

Thanks Mark

 

Kempton Park Rally

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A few hours later and reasonable journey with a few roadworks encountered and overcome later we arrived. Cup of coffee to start the motor and off we went. Andrew met his friend so went off exploring as did John and I and vowed to not spend much. Yea right!!  Usual players Moonraker, ML&S, Icom, Yaesu etc etc on show with Waters and Stanton having quite the lions share of space – always good for a browse. John and I found our way to the bits and pieces stalls and bought some minor electrical items (ferrite rings amongst other things) few pence. I was drawn to a mobile antenna system on sale from an independent (can’t remember the name) that on-paper looked impressive but…on closer inspection would probably last 5 mins compared to Hustler or Diamond and the build quality was pants. Resisted that.

Then….went back around again to the smaller stalls and to the small club bring and buys and there it was. An old home brew antenna part built and in need to some TLC. In true car boot fashion asked for a price and couldn’t believe what i got back. £2!!! Yes £2 and we think although needs a close look not done that yet that its a J pole design and according to the club selling it off they seem to think it resonated well somewhere around 145.250-146.000MHz but may have done better elsewhere. So I have my project and with the help of John (M3EQQ) and John (M0HFH) I’m sure we can make it perform with a few mods along the way. Happy bunny!! Especially since we think a few others had seen it and were after it to. Also had an aluminium tripod for £8 but again resisted.

Here she is (folded up of course and currently in the old office/shack);

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I was not alone.. John also bagged a bargain with a Yeasu Ft7800 (I think) for £110 in the rally bring and buy although yet to hear that it performs but seem to be quite tidy. Andrew purchased a mobile mast I think for the field trip and we finished off by looking around once more at the radio’s on offer, new specs and whats coming up.

We finished off talking ourselves into the merits of Total Mast Solutions and Andrew and myself will certainly be investing as it seems an all encompassing and impressive system easy to use and portable in that the system (depending on the model and we were told there are over 100 now) can be broken down and re-assembled to suit the operating conditions, antenna systems etc. Bespoke builds are also possible.

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Then….

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We then found ourselves heading back to Lynch’s and a refreshing cup of tea (and chocolate mini rolls!! excellent marketing tactic well worth the visit!). On a technical note Andrew found his new power supply whilst John and I miandered around the shop and as always I got pulled back to the many antenna systems on offer and in consultation with Andrew have yet again changed my mind on the main system at the new home QTH shack.

A thoroughly good day and well worth the trip. I came away with some ideas/thoughts and perhaps even proposals for future PR events that the club might want to consider and of course my bargain. I’m planning a visit to the Weston rally on May 17th  to see what a smaller scale rally might look like so will be reporting back on that in due course.

Excellent day I believe had by all. Looking forward to the next.

Mark M6KMJ